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Job

Chapter 04
{Chapters 4-14: The First Debate}
{Chapters 4-7: Debate with Eliphaz}
{Verses 1-6: Past Victory No Indication of Future Success}
1-2~~Then Eliphaz the Temanite replied and said, 2~~
"If someone ventures/attempt/test/assay {nacah}
a word {dabar} with you,
will you be impatient?"
  {all 'councilors' like to 'start sweet'}

"But who can keep himself from speaking?"
  {'I am burdened for you brother' oh boy}

3~~"Think how you have instructed many,
and you have strengthened feeble hands.
  {Job was a great teacher of Doctrine}"

4~~"Your words/'doctrinal communications' {dabar}
have supported those who have stumbled."

"And you have strengthened faltering knees."

5~~"But
  {ever hear - 'You are great . . . BUT' . . .
  'You are a great teacher of doctrine . . . BUT'}
now it {trouble} comes to you, and you are discouraged."
  {Eliphaz is 'talking down' to Job - no way to counsel}

"It strikes you, and you are dismayed."

6~~"Should not your piety be your confidence?"

"And your blameless/upright ways be your hope?"

{Verses 7-11: Eliphaz Makes a Wrong Judgment
  from a Wrong Assumption}
7~~"Consider now, please/'I pray you',
who being innocent ever perished?"

"Or where were the upright/righteous ever destroyed?"
  {sloppy thinking - Job is still alive - just under severe evidence
  testing for advancement}

{Note: Eliphaz assumes Job was not innocent in this 'punishment' from God - a wrong assumption.}

8~~"As I {Eliphaz} have observed,
those who plow evil, and those who sow trouble,
reap the same."
  {Eliphaz is the 'great observer of God's plan' and is saying 'the
  trouble with you Job is you are reaping what you sowed -
  he is judging and doing so incorrectly}

9~~"At the breath of 'Elohiym/Godhead,they are destroyed . . .
at the blast of His anger they perish."
  {saying you are in for it Job - you failed - more wrong judging/
  slander - mental attitude sins}

{Illustration}
10-11~~"The lions may roar and grunt.
Yet the teeth of the great lion are broken.
  {great illustration but does not apply to Job. With all of its power,
  without the use of its jaws and teeth the lion will die} 11~~
The old lion perishes for lack of prey,
and the cubs of the lioness are scattered abroad."
  {Eliphaz is judging Job that Job is the cause of his children's
  deaths}

{Spiritual Sounding Judging}
12~~"A word was secretly brought to me,
and my ears caught a whisper of it."

{Note: People tend to become vague when they are not quite sure of their ground. Here Eliphaz is receiving and spreading rumors and gossip - more sinning.}

13-14~~"Amid disquieting dreams of the night,
when deep sleep falls on man, 14~~
fear and trembling seized me
and made all my bones shake."

15~~"A spirit/breath passed before my face . . .
the hair of my body stood on end."

{Verses 16-17: Misstatements Often Include Much Correct Doctrine -
  Correct Doctrines Wrongly Applied}
16-17~~"It stopped but I could not tell what it was.
A form stood before my eyes,
and I heard a hushed voice, saying, 17~~
'Can a mortal man be more righteous than 'Elohiym/Godhead?
Can a man be more pure than his Maker?"

{Note: Eliphaz is saying he is a prophet and received a revelation from God. We know that this is not truly a message from God however. So, we also know Eliphaz is mixing in a lot of accurate doctrine with an inaccurate application. Only a person with ALL the facts should judge - i.e. only God should judge.}

18-19~~"Behold, if He {God} put no trust in His servants;
and if He charges his angels with error, 19~~
  {Eliphaz is assuming God has no trust in Job}

how much less in them who dwell in houses of clay,
whose foundation is in the dust,
which are crushed more readily than a moth?"
  {saying Job you are just a moth about to be crushed by God}

20~~"Between dawn and dusk
they are broken to pieces -
unnoticed, they perish forever."

21~~"Are not the cords of their tent pulled up
so that they die without wisdom?"

{Note: The sin unto death is a true doctrine, but it does not apply to Job. Eliphaz has set himself up as the great spiritual leader of Job - his personal spiritual advisor - and could not be more wrong.}